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Lad
07-18-2008, 08:01 AM
They are up on http://www.worldofraids.com/.

I just want to say:

"Wand Specialization (Discipline) has been removed."


WTF

Etrigana
07-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Man, I figured youd be pissed about the 6sec cooldown on CoH. I guess the buffs to lightwell make up for it though.

Also, dont let Kub see the windfury changes!

-Etri

Rild
07-18-2008, 08:13 AM
Windfury Totem is now a flat 20% melee haste totem. All ranks have been modified.

Did not say anything about imbude!

Lad
07-18-2008, 08:34 AM
I am pissed that circle of healing is pretty worthless now, but I don't want to be "that whiney bitch guy". It probably did need a cooldown, because it can be spammed in pvp just like prayer of mending. But this is another case of nerfing a great PvE spell because of arenas.

In my opinion a 6 second cooldown should warrant 2.5x or 3x more healing.

We'll see how lightwell works out. I can't see shifting the responibilities of healing onto the dps as a positive change. I've been doing this gig for years now and I can probably jump in and top a person off quicker than somebody who is focused on their attack rotation. But it also looks like lightwell is made for big raids.

It looks like blizzard thinks shadow priests needed a bit of a buff and holy priests a bit of a nerf. But nothing they've done is game breaking.

Anyways. Don't fuck with my wands.

[Edit] - Looks like druids got quite the buff, especially healing druids.

Aurorawind
07-18-2008, 08:36 AM
I am so pissed about this...

Circle of Healing (Holy): Now works on any targets in the caster's raid, and is now a "smart" heal and chooses the lowest health targets to heal first within it's range. Also now has a 6 second cooldown. Also no longer will heal summoned Snakes from Hunter's Snake Trap.

Man, we're getting nerfed right and left!

Etrigana
07-18-2008, 08:49 AM
[Edit] - Looks like druids got quite the buff, especially healing druids.


Ya dude, no shit. Its like Christmas in July.

CoH should really be a 3sec cooldown at max and they should increase the duration of Guardian Spirit to make up for the nerf. Priests really got the shaft in terms of talents yet again :(

-Etri

Wenge
07-18-2008, 10:03 AM
But this is another case of nerfing a great PvE spell because of arenas.

Could be worse ... they could have nerfed the entire class because of arena. :qq:

Nortibiry
07-22-2008, 11:22 PM
Happy news for Lyre and others I'm sure

We’re pleased to announce a convenient upgrade to the way that mounts and vanity pets are handled in Wrath of the Lich King.

Players will be able to “learn” a mount or non-combat pet much like learning a spell, recipe, or new ability, and these creatures will then show up on a new Pet tab within the Character Info section of the interface. Players will be able to access and preview their learned mounts and vanity pets through this tab.

Once learned, the pet icon or mount icon will no longer appear in bag spaces or bank spaces. This inventory space will be made available once again for other adventuring needs. Pets can still be set to hotkeys by dragging them to the hotkey bar, much like any other spell or ability.http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202535862&sid=1

Lad
07-24-2008, 01:03 PM
We'll be removing the imposed cooldown on Circle of Healing in an upcoming beta build. We'll experiment with the ability having no cooldown, but it's still possible we may decide it needs it. We are indeed concerned with the impact AOE heals such as Circle of Healing, Chain Heal etc. have in endgame raiding, but we haven't decided the best way to address the issue.

/crossed fingers

Aurorawind
07-24-2008, 01:37 PM
I wondered who was shouting for joy....

Mithwen
07-24-2008, 07:07 PM
yeah I'd be sad about the wand thing except they replaced it with a talent that's useful.

Kastus
08-02-2008, 08:26 AM
I am pissed that circle of healing is pretty worthless now, but I don't want to be "that whiney bitch guy". It probably did need a cooldown, because it can be spammed in pvp just like prayer of mending. But this is another case of nerfing a great PvE spell because of arenas.Don't know if serious... any priest speccing circle of healing won't be seeing 1600...

Etrigana
08-02-2008, 07:36 PM
Don't know if serious... any priest speccing circle of healing won't be seeing 1600...

PvP is not just the arena....but ya, thinks for your constructive comments Kastus! Always a pleasure.

-Etri

Kastus
08-04-2008, 01:01 AM
PvP is not just the arena....but ya, thinks for your constructive comments Kastus! Always a pleasure.

-Etri
Battlegrounds are a disorganized mass of idiots scrambling to get easy gladiator gear because they can't break 1501 nine times out of ten. World PvP is silly as it is, with the opener usually winning. A spammable heal is no big deal if you are doing no damage, and you won't outlast anyone with CoH, ha. I may also point out Lad said it was being nerfed because of arenas. :D
AoE healing will be primarily handled by paladins and shamans as of WoTLK looking at the way things are being handled, perhaps even a ret paladin in the melee group for the 51 pointer's survivability (everything helps). CoH will be trivialized by the 51 point holy talent. Helpful yes, needing to be spammed? No.