WoTLK Paladin builds

[benseac]

This is the first time I've seen an expansion talent tree for paladins so I messed around with it a bit and came up with a holy build (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sxAkx0zGVuMxRtxGtMM) that looks like it might be groovy. The divine guardian talent in the prot tree looks pretty spiffy.

Here's a ret build (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZEZVcxt0suVhsguVo) I threw together, too.

[Lyre]

Have you seen the new paladin talents?

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The holy tree is neato!
PROT PALLIES GET A STRIKE THAT DOES DAMAGE AND BIG IN THREAT!

Holy paladins are getting a heal that targets one person and everyone within 30 yds of that person also gets healed for the ammount. All raid members. O.o" It's a heal over time and an AoE heal all in one. :D

The prot talents are amazing. And there is a nice talent that holy paladins can grab that when we have divine shield active 30% of the damage that all raid members within 30yds take is redirected to the paladin. :P~

I would go into ret to but I don't want to come across as to giddy, but these trees..if they go live..will make me a very happy panda. :P

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents2.html#none

There is the link. ALl the talents are up for all classes. ^_^

[Rolden]

Heres my ret build (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZxGZEf0t0chVIoguVo)

Heres my holy build (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sxAkxhzhVu0eotVrt0x)

I dont like the way they have reworked some of the trees. What happened to precision?

[Wenge]

Personally I'm happy that Blessing of Salvation was removed.

[benseac]

I've been kicking around a few builds (http://fulcrum-guild.net/showthread.php?t=950) down in the paladin area. The new talents do look pretty nifty.

[Lyre]

Here is a holy build I'm looking at: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sxAzxhzGVuRxRtVGzhR

I had some ideas for ret and prot to. I posted them but posted the wrong links and I'm to lazy to do it again.
Oh well. :P
Overall, though, I am very happy with the talents. :)

AoE hoT!!!! WOOOOT!

[Wenge]

threads merged

[Aurorawind]

So some questions on the ret builds, so I can learn more (and maybe get my paladin past 62 finally)

Why not Imp Blessing of Might?

And why not Sheath of Light? I'm guessing because Crusader Strike doesn't get spellpower bonus?

[Malicyte]

I think I will go with this for my Holy build, if i'm still blessing Might/Wis http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents2.html?tal=50350150320132053100501051050200 000000000000000000000500050300000000000000000000

hopefully I got it right this time:D

[Raptace]

Am I reading Beacon of Light right? AOE spammable heal?

[benseac]

Am I reading Beacon of Light right? AOE spammable heal?

That's the way I read it. No cooldown and only a 1.5 second cast time.

Hot.

[Raptace]

Yeah crazy as hell, that will help alot for those close together fights.

[benseac]

Well, with the content patch coming shortly (a few weeks perhaps?), we'll be getting new talents and such.

With that in mind, I've started looking through the talents again to try to figure out what 61-point talent combination I think could work for our current raids. So, I came up with this holy build (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents2.html?tal=50350150020131053100501200503201 302200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000). Still kicking around some ideas so if you have any of your own, let's chat about them.

[Etrigana]

I think you are crazy to not take beacon of light. Id drop kings for it personally. Only one paladin needs kings afterall. That means one gets shafted and doesnt get to take beacon of light, but its well worth it. With the onset of 3.0, we might also be able to cut back a healer and have a ret paladin (the group heal and buffs are pretty sick imo, and with every class getting an AoE heal, I dont know why we couldnt cut back a healer). We will see though.

-Etri

[benseac]

I think you are crazy to not take beacon of light. Id drop kings for it personally. Only one paladin needs kings afterall. That means one gets shafted and doesnt get to take beacon of light, but its well worth it. With the onset of 3.0, we might also be able to cut back a healer and have a ret paladin (the group heal and buffs are pretty sick imo, and with every class getting an AoE heal, I dont know why we couldnt cut back a healer). We will see though.

-Etri

That's true. It's not nearly necessary for all of us paladins to have Kings. I did a little bit more messing around and came up with this build (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents2.html?tal=50350150020131053102501251503200 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000).

[Kastus]

The talent calculator you are using for paladins is incorrect.
http://www.wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Paladin#tab=Talent_Calculator
Try this, kings comes with beacon, and is now 18% stats.
Also, mm, MM, I volunteer: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05232251223331032213523135100000000000000 0000000000001050000000000000000000000

[benseac]

The talent calculator you are using for paladins is incorrect.
http://www.wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Paladin#tab=Talent_Calculator
Try this, kings comes with beacon, and is now 18% stats.
Also, mm, MM, I volunteer: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05232251223331032213523135100000000000000 0000000000001050000000000000000000000

Odd that Blizzard has the outdated talent calculator. Anywho, using that calculator, I came up with this (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=00000000000000000000000000050350150020132 0531105012511403200000000000000000000), which has the beacon of light and kings.

[Kastus]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05000000000000000000000000050350150300130 0531025012511400000000000000000000000 IMO.
Benediction now affects all instant casts.
Your hand spells will be used too infrequently in a raid setting to worry about mana, (2 minute cooldown on hand of salvation, and 5 minutes of untalented waiting time on hand of protection) as in comparison to having an instant HL in the bag, aaas well as the fact benediction will help their mana cost, as well as cleanse and beacon of light, which for Kastus is sitting at 1033 a pop.
Got rid of IMP wisdom because... if you're doing IMP kings, you wont need IMP wisdom, don't think there is a class who would take mana regen over 18% stats.
Blessed life is silly, so I took those points and the points from IMP wisdom and slapped them into imp concen aura, which can be nice for a group when there is heavy AoE knockback on healing/casters, or for ME in 5 mans, getting my cast bar slapped around by mobs.
My two cents.

[Aurorawind]

Kings is still 10%, just 5 talent points for it.

[Vand]

Kings is still 10%, just 5 talent points for it.
Another way to look at it is that it is now only 5 points for a non-prot pali to pick up, rather than the current 11.

[Aurorawind]

Another way to look at it is that it is now only 5 points for a non-prot pali to pick up, rather than the current 11.

Very true!

I've got to say though that I was blown away at the damage Ret is doing now over in beta. Quite seriously a viable contender for a raid DPS slot I believe, my 62 Paladin in quest and crafted greens was tearing through 62-64 mobs like a rogue and still keeping near full life and mana.

[Kastus]

Kings is still 10%, just 5 talent points for it.

Ah, I swear it was 18% a week back or so, oh well, no big difference.
I still stand by what I said.

[Dremylos]

Ret Raiding Build - http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000001450000 000000000000000000052322510033310322135231351

Prot Build - http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=050000000000000000000000000050053 500315251533312321502000000000000000000000000 (((One point to go wherever you'd like)))

Holy Build - http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=503500520201300531025012511403200 520300000000000000000000000000000000000000000




---These are all raiding builds, not meant for PvP, levelling, or anything else.