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Old 01-23-2008, 04:14 PM   #1
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New thread for any Bloodboil information or discussion that is needed. Here are some links I stumbled across to get us started:

Bosskillers guide

EJ discussion thread

I'm still picking away at the EJ thread and it might be considered optional, I think there is no reason everyone shouldn't read through the bosskillers strategy or an equivalent and be familiar with the abilities in play so that we can discuss strategy without explaining basics.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:52 AM   #2
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Looks like this is going to be an interesting fight.

If I could make a suggestion to the mages and paladins in the raid, remove the ice block/divine shield buttons from your bar, etc. so you're not tempted to use it in phase 2 if you get the Fel Rage debuff.

Would it be wise for this fight to use more +stam gear even if it sacrifices some +spell dmg? For example, I'm currently using the frozen shadoweave boots but also have a pair of the boots of blasphemy. I'd be giving up roughly 20ish spell damage but woud be gaining 20 stamina by switching to those.
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Well, as long as they can think we'll have our problems. But those whom we're using cannot think. They are the dead. Brought to a simulated life by our electrode guns. You know, it's an interesting thing when you consider...the Earth people, who can think, are so frightened by those who cannot: the dead.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:10 AM   #3
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This guy always has some good advice on the fights, and is usually a different take than BossKillers'.

And here's his diagram:

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Old 01-24-2008, 12:17 PM   #4
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Would it be wise for this fight to use more +stam gear even if it sacrifices some +spell dmg? For example, I'm currently using the frozen shadoweave boots but also have a pair of the boots of blasphemy. I'd be giving up roughly 20ish spell damage but woud be gaining 20 stamina by switching to those.[/b]
Someone in the EJ thread suggested using (presumably selective) pieces of PvP gear for this. Since the majority of the damage going around is in the form of DoTs, I can see how the DoT reduction would help. Also it is claimed that he won't crit during the fel rage stages, so that is a non issue.

It might be worth really piling the PvP gear on (if you have decent PvP gear) for the early learning attempts, as the longer we can last with a full raid of living people, the more we will learn, and the more time healers will have to sort out the finer points of assignments. This is a healer fight so while we will need the dps for a kill, we're going to have to give them time to work out all the details.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:29 PM   #5
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Alternate positioning -- same idea but uses more of the room. We might want to keep this in mind if we're having trouble spreading out for the geyser.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:22 PM   #6
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Bloodboil soaks will be hereafter called Super Action Team's, they are:


SAT 1
Wenge *team lead and all around do gooder*
Rora
Raptace
Vand
Etri
(sub Lyre)

SAT 2
Phewl *team lead and resident wheel man*
Lad
Chas
Xaan
Galeme
(sub Attic)

SAT 3
Haythan *team lead and expert knife fighter*
Pika
Zhek
Erin
Padiri
(sub Kubera)

1-2-3-1-2 is how it "should" go according to the strats I've read but as with everything I may be wrong and things may change as the fight progress.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:32 PM   #7
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From what I've read through that EJ thread, someone mentioned using a group of warlocks as one of the soak groups and they just drain life through it, just a thought.
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:32 PM   #8
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From what I've read through that EJ thread, someone mentioned using a group of warlocks as one of the soak groups and they just drain life through it, just a thought.[/b]
All the warlocks are already assigned to a group. Draining life to self-heal may well be an excellent idea, but I do not know that it makes any difference whether the warlocks are all in one SAT or spread out amongst all three. My concern would be whether the non-afflication locks would have their drain channeling interrupted every time a bloodboil ticked. Of course, EJ people are the sort who may well respec for every new fight, at least while they're learning it.

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Paladins can use Blessing of Protection on the tank if need be, to ensure his drop in threat.[/b]
Hmm...maybe somebody read the wrong strat before the Naj'entus fight...
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:12 PM   #9
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I like that idea of sending in your "worst" tank first luckly our worst tank is Tier so thats a plus.


To Tier, yea I was looking at that too to me that would only serve to make one group not need heals which I think could perhaps cause confusion if one of the SAT's didnt need heals while the other 3 did when the healers are gonna be stretched to the limit as is.
To Vand, pallies are good at 2 things, face pulling and boping.
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:41 AM   #10
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We had some good attempts at him last night. Methinks the next time he tangles with the squirrels, he's going to get dropped.

One thing I noticed was during the last fight, when it was obvious it was a wipe, someone took off up the ramp (it was a gnome but y'all look alike to me so I didn't catch the name) and when he was near the top, it seemed as though Bloodboil reset.

Looking through the WWS reports, I was reminded about how much down time I had in the fight (and speaking with the other locks in our channel, it wasn't just me who experienced this). How he does threat is nutty. One time I got agro on him and, according to my Omen, I wasn't anywhere near the top. I know he has agro drops but I thought he went to the next highest after doing his thing to the tanks. From what my meter was telling me, I wasn't even in the top 5, threat-wise.

We have the mechanism down pretty well, from what I saw. Just a little tweeking here and there and we'll add his head to our trophy case.
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